SHOT SHOW 2017: Industry Day at the Range Video

SHOT Show stands for Shooting Hunting Outdoor Trade Show, it is held at the Sands Convention Center at the Venetian Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas NV, USA. It is a private INDUSTRY ONLY show. As media, we are invited to come out and see all the new firearms in the Industry so we may bring you the viewer new content.  This video is from Industry Day, also known as Media Day.  This is our “first day” where we get to shoot all different firearms, ammo, accessories, etc.  It is a really fun day to try many different types of firearms from skeet shooting to full auto.  Tomorrow starts the first official day of the trade show.

Kel-Tec KSG (Kel-Tec Shotgun) review

If you haven’t seen or heard about the Kel-Tec KSG, it is a bullpup 12 gauge shotgun with 2 magazine tubes and one barrel.

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Introduction

The Kel-Tec KSG shotgun is not your standard old faithful shotgun. It is not the shotgun that our grandfathers have been using since they were young pups. This is Kel-Tec’s entry into the modern day shotgun class. From first glance, you can see this shotgun is different. The KSG doesn’t have the look of that old American classic. This shotgun is part of the future of shotguns in both the LE/military market as well as the civilian market.

Specs

Caliber: 12 gauge up to 3” shell

Barrel length: 18.5″

Total capacity: 6+6+1 (using 3” shells)

Weight empty: 6.9lbs

Weight loaded: 8.5lbs

Length: 26.1″

Height: 7″

MSRP: $990.00

Materials: Hardened Steel and Glass reinforced nylon (Zytel)

First Impressions

The Kel-Tec KSG shotgun made its way on to the market a few years back. I had a number of opportunities to get some trigger time with this shotgun, prior to getting this one for review. I liked the look when I first saw this gun and I have always liked the bullpup design.

As I have mentioned in the past, I own a 20 gauge that is a bottom loader and ejector shotgun so I have had years of experience with that style. I have wanted to own the Kel-Tec KSG since day one.

Shooting and Feel

This shotgun is a 12 gauge and there is no denying that fact. Since this is a bullpup, there is not a lot of room to add things, like recoil dampeners, that you might have in a plastic butt stock of your favorite bird gun.

I am sure when Kel-Tec was building and designing this shotgun bullpup they weren’t designing this for a 10 year old child who might not be ready to shoot heavier recoiled shotguns. This shotgun has the recoil of a normal 12 gauge. For me, that doesn’t affect my personal take on this shotgun, because I own a number of shotguns and I have been shooting them for years. The compact size makes the gun easier to control because you are not sticking that 18.5” barrel past where it is comfortably maneuverable.

Operation and Controls

The Kel-Tec KSG is a pump action that offers the shooter dual 7 round (2.75 inch shells) magazine tubes so they can carry 14 + 1 shells in the shotgun. The magazine tubes are manually operated by a toggle switch behind the pistol grip. This gives you total control over the type of ammo the shotgun is shooting.

The most common question I have been asked is why do you need manual switch tubes? The best answer I have found, is that it was designed for someone in the LE/Military to use this shotgun to clear a building. The Kel-Tec KSG offers them 2 shotguns in one. You can load mag tube one with door breaching rounds or lethal rounds and load mag tube 2 up with something less than lethal. You can make the shotgun mission adaptable i.e. slugs in one tube and bird shot in the other to keep the spray pattern from over penetration.

For hunting, you might want that slug in one tube to take down your deer or hogs and buckshot or bird shot for varmint. For range commandos about 8 seconds of 12 gauge glory as you rain down fire and birdshot on your paper targets.

The pump release is right where you want it to be on the trigger guard. All you have to do is extend your trigger finger from a trigger control position to the lever to release your pump. The safety is a larger side to side push safety with clear written red “F” for fire and the left side a white “S” for safety.

Sights and Rails:

The KSG comes with a 12.25” picatinny rail on the top and a 5 inch picatinny rail on the pump. The shotgun does not come with iron sights or any kind of sight for that matter. The top rail offers the shooter a wide range of set ups from backup iron sights with a holographic sight as your main sight or even a shotgun tube sight. On the bottom of my KSG, I have put a Troy fore grip to assist in the pump action and keep my hands from being anywhere near the muzzle. There is enough room for a laser and fore grip on the bottom or even a fore grip/bipod combo.

Sling:

Kel-Tec ships a webbing and connectors to give the KSG a 2 point sling which is my biggest con of this gun. I have the sling attached and have had it attached since day one to insure I gave everything Kel-Tec sent a fair and honest review. I don’t like the connection points at the muzzle and at the butt stock. I have found I have almost shot my sling off a few times. The KSG hasn’t been designed with quick detach slings in mind and so you will not find QD points on the shotgun. I think that is something that would give this shotgun more to offer, having more freedom of sling options. I did find on the Kel-Tec website a metal single point attachment bracket for $21. If I keep this shotgun that is definitely one of the extras I would like to get.

Extras/Accessories:

As I mentioned about the single point adapter there is one more accessory I would want. That is the choke tube adapter. My other con I have for the KSG is that is it neither rifled for slugs nor choked for spread pattern. While the choke isn’t really a bad thing, as a hunter a rifled barrel would better serve the gun. Part of the reason I want a choke adapter is to allow me to thread on the new Silencerco Salvo 12 gauge suppressor.

Final Thoughts:

I have loved every second of reviewing this Kel-Tec KSG. This bullpup is fun to shoot, fun to show other shooters and most of all an extremely well built 12 gauge. There are other 12 gauge shotguns in this class that might not always be able to stand up to the forces that is modern day 12 gauge range commandos shotgun does. The KSG has even more applications than what I have mentioned. That to me, makes this shotgun such a nice tool to be added to anyone’s gun collection.

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NAME THIS GUN 6-6: MSBS Radon-B

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As many of you may already know Caleb and I both have an interest in bullpup firearms (The GEARs crew owns an FN FS2000). The MSBS Radon-B  and Radon-K are new Polish rifles designed for their (Radon-B) Special Forces and (Radon-K) for their infantry.

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Weight:  3.7 kg (8.2 lbs.) and Radon-B 3.4 kg (7.5 lbs.)
Length: Radon-K 980 mm (39 in) Radon-B 720 mm (28 in)
Cartridge: 5.56×45mm NATO
Action Type : Gas-operated, rotating bolt
Cyclic rate: 700–750 rounds/min
Magazine type: Stanag (M-16/M4 style) (seen using Magpul PMAG above)
Controls and ejection: Fully ambidextrous

(MSBS = Modułowy System Broni Strzeleckiej kalibru or Modular caliber Arms)

Polish Armed forces are currently using The Kbs wz.1996 Beryl. (seen below)   (click the image to read more about the Beryl from Military Today’s website)

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Kalashnikov inc. Bullpups

Kalashnikov inc. is trying to jump into the new age with a new alliance and and a new take on the bullpup rifle. Military-informant.com posted a picture with a short introduction to a new set of AK platforms that move the action into the stock of the firearm. It seems they will be producing both a 5.45×39 and a 7.62×39 variant of the new bullpup named the AS-1 and the AS-2 respectively. Although information on the systems seems to be fairly limited at this juncture both appear to feature a top and bottom rail to be used with either popup iron sights or you just as easily attach any standard optics without need for a replacement dust cover, gas block or other RIS hardware. Both models seem to be a primarily polymer construction and may feature an ejection port on the right side which could be bad news for lefties, but once again, details are fuzzy so all I can do at this point is speculate.

I for one am really excited about this! Since I bought a Romanian WASR a few years ago I have been interested in all things AK. Previously I had written a short article hailing the creativity of the team at CBRPS and their efforts to “modernize” many rifles with new custom made bullpup kits. I think we will see some good improvement to these bolt-on kits as Kalashnikov inc. shows us its take on the compact AK.

Hopefully with an AK designed from the ground up to fit in such a small space the design will be a bit slimmer and lighter than a bullpup kit would have afforded, but I do wonder how this will affect the simple take down and the ultimate indestructible nature of one of the most innately simple and effective rifle systems. I have high hopes. What’s your take?

Izhmash Prototype VS-121 Sniper Rifle

Not only is Izhmash making a new bullpup rifle chambered in the Russian 7.62x54mmR and the 7.62x51mm but they are also working on a new cartridge for this rifle!

I am excited about this and I know Caleb is too as he loves bullpup rifles.

 

[Thanks to The Firearm Blogs followers for the news]  

CBRPS

I would like to bring to your attention a group of very progressive designers who I have quite a bit of respect for. Center Balance Rifle Platform Systems does its work like no one else simply because not many people do what these guys do. With a bit of engineering ingenuity and what I’m sure turns out to be a nightmare of subtle design flaws and revisions, CRBPS manufactures bull pup kits for a growing number of easily accessible rifles. Currently their list of kits covers the AK-47, Draco pistol, SKS, Mosin Nagant, Remington 597, and a Saiga 12 gauge shotgun.

I stumbled upon the CBRPS creations about a year ago, but only recently came to fully respect their efforts as I have been fiddling with making a bull pup kit of my own (paintball hardly counts though). Overhauling a firearm to this extent takes a lot of thought, and even more time and work, and I believe them to do a very good job of it. Although I have yet to handle one of their kits and can’t comment on their work out of any personal experience, I admire their initiative in giving a new life to a few classic rifle systems. I can’t wait to see what they do next, and I hope they continue to inspire some more radical creativity in the firearm accessory and gunsmithing communities.

I’ll leave you with a look at one of their Mosin kits with a few added customizations.

Answer: Shotguns

1.  Shotgun (1)
Name: TASER® X12 Less Lethal Shotgun by Mossberg
Gauge: TASER XREP (Modified 12-gauge Taser shells only.)
Action: Pump.

2. Shotgun (2)
Name: RMB-93
Gauge: 12-gauge
Action: Pump action

3. Shotgun (3)
Name: Saiga 12
Gauge: 12 Gauge
Action: Semi-Auto. Gas-operated, rotating bolt

4. Shotgun (4)
Name: Franchi SPAS-12
Gauge: 12 Gauge
Action: Pump action

5. Shotgun (5)
Name: Armsel Striker (Street Sweeper)
Gauge: 12 Gauge
Action: Similar to that of a revolver (Double action)

6. Shotgun (6)
Name: Atchisson Assault 12 (AA12)
Gauge:12 Gauge
Action: Selective fire, forced gas blowback operated

7. Shotgun (7)
Name: Akdel MKA 1919
Gauge: 12 Gauge
Action: Gas Operated, Semi-Automatic

8. Shotgun (8)
Name: Kel-Tec KSG
Gauge: 12 Gauge
Action: Pump

9.  Shotgun (9)
Name: Techno Arms MAG-7
Gauge: 12 Gauge
Action: Pump

10.Shotgun (10)
Name: Safir Arms AT-14
Gauge: .410 Bore
Action: Semi Auto short-stroke gas piston

REVIEW: FN-H FS2000 Range review PT.2

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The conclusion to the gears review on the FN-H FS2000 bullpup.

Polymer frame/ comfort:
The polymer frame and ergonomics of the grip and fore grip makes the rifle lightweight and comfortable to shoot for extended amounts of time.

After a day of shooting the gun never heated up to uncomfortable point.

Sling and carrying
While shooting the rifle in a more tactical range we found that carrying and shooting the rifle without the sling is not as comfortable.

Left handed shooting

The GEARS crew has a left handed shooter who went out with us.

Compared to the Sig we were also shooting I found the FS 2000 to be much more comfortable.  Being left handed a problem that commonly occurs is getting hot brass in the face, with this rifle, no problem. (Written by DJ. GEARS left handed shooter)

Reloading
As we said in part 1 on Monday of the review (link at the bottom of this page)
The is not your standard AR style mag release and requires the shooter to press the (Ambidextrous bottom mounted) magazine release while they pull the magazine out.
It took a a few reloads before it becomes easier and after a day of shooting blind magazine change becomes more easy without having to take your eye of the target.

Felt recoil
The recoil on this gun is lower (.223 has low recoil) when compared to our AR-15 and about the same when compared to our SIG556s

Semi-auto
Shooting off the bench rest or standing with firing in a fast semi-auto burst we could still stay on target and keep about and 2” to 4” grouping with no problem.

Safety
The Ambidextrous safety in the trigger guard is a nice feature. but other than that no real comment on the safety.

Comments on the rifle:

Clearing the weapon: It always seemed we had to rack the charging handle back twice just to be sure the round came out of the rifle.

The forward ejection: Standing alone at the table or with no one to our right the ejection was nice but when a person was standing to our right they sometimes were hit with spent brass.

Cleaning: After breaking down the rifle we  didn’t have to take the bolt carrier apart to clean like our AR-15 which made cleaning quick and simple.

Accuracy: center grouping was taken off the bench rest and the other holes were from sighting in and when doing semi-auto burst fire.

 

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For part 1 of the review Click here or specs and other info Click here or for a video about how to field strip the weapon Click here.

REVIEW: FN-H FS2000 Range review. PT.1

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The GEARS crew went out to the range to sight in our new rifles and get a feel for them so we could better review them.

We shot about 200 rounds running M855 5.56×45mm 62-grain ball cartridge, green tip steel penetrator rounds.

After an extended range time with this rifle we have had a better chance to review it.

We can now expand on our original Pros and cons:

PRO:
Uses AR-15 magazines.
AR-15 Metal magazines are cheap and easy to find, if you own an AR-15 style rifle you can buy one type of magazine for both rifles.

Accurate.
While on the range we took the rifle and shot it from the bench rest, seated w/o the bench rest and standing and rifle remained relatively stable and on target after each shot
Full size gun in a small package (Bullpup)
The Bullpup design allows for different height and build shooters to fire the rifle without the need of changing a stock length or forend grips.
Balance
The weight of the rifle is mostly centered in the middle of the rifle making the recoil low and reducing some of the muzzle climb when fired in semi-auto.

CONS:

Chamber access is limited.
With the ejection port at the front of the rifle the chamber has very little access when fully assembled making clearing jams or brass stuck in the barrel hard to do.

The only malfunction we had was a double feed which was easy to remedy by removing the magazine and locking the charging handle to the rear.
Magazine doesn’t drop free.
This wasn’t so much a problem for us at the range. A shooter who has been trained on the AR style mag release will need to relearn the motions for releasing the magazine. This requires the shooter to press the (Ambidextrous bottom mounted) magazine release while they pull the magazine out.
No Polymer magazines.
The rifle only uses metal magazines.

 

For specs and other info Click here or for a video out how to field strip the weapon Click here

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