Name this gun 6-9 PP-2000

Name this gun 6-9 PP-2000


Country of origin: Russia
Designer: KBP (Instrumental Design Bureau)
Production began: 2004
Weapon type: Submachine Gun
Caliber: 9 x 19 mm NATO
Action: Blowback-operated
Overall length: 11.8” (300 mm)
Barrel length: 7.1” (182 mm)
Weight empty: 3lbs (1.4 kg)
Magazine capacity: 20/44 round box
Cyclic rate: 600 RPM
Maximum effective range: 200 m (656ft)

44 round box magazine sticking out of the back to act as a shoulder support.

The PP-2000 was designed to be a competitor to some of the smaller caliber submachine guns like the FN-H P90 5.7mm or H&K MP7 4.6mm while still using a common caliber. The PP-2000 fires the standard 9mm NATO round but has the ability to fire the Russian 9×19  +P+ class 7N31 armor piercing ammunition.

The Charging handle folds forward out of the way on the top of the gun just behind the front sight.

The body from polymer as a single receiver with pistol grip and trigger guard. Trigger guard is large to provide front hand grip for better handling and accuracy.

The magazine well is the pistol grip like that of the H&K MP7.

The gun can hold a spare mag in the rear of the receiver (seen in the lower picture). The top picture shows a removable side-folding buttstock. This is currently being shipped out with the gun.

Fire selector is on the left side above the pistol grip so the (Right handed) operator can activate it using the thumb.

The gun come with fixed iron sights, and a Picatinny-type rail on the receiver cover.


[Operationiceberg named this gun correctly first.]

First Impressions: VersaCarry Holsters

First Impressions: VersaCarry Holsters

About two weeks ago We were contacted by VersaCarry about a T&E (review) of their holsters and of course I was very excited about trying them out since they one of the most interesting IWB holsters (Inside the Waist Band) on the market.


They sent us three holsters to review

A large .45 ACP for my Glock 21 (pictured above blue on the right)
A Medium .40 S&W for Caleb’s S&W M&P .40
And a Small 9mm for SAWGunners Kel-Tec PF-9 (Pictured above yellow on the left)

Since I haven’t had the chance to see SAWG I have had the small holster to review against my large.


Large .45 with a Glock 21

Concealment level: I tend to wear more medium T-shirts which does not conceal the Glock 21 as well as I would like it to.
By wearing a large or XL shirt the gun is less noticeable in the small of my back. wearing mediums and larges I cannot wear the holster on my side because the gun shows. Wearing an XL shirt the gun on my hip still has some bulk but is less noticeable and the general population most likely wouldn’t even notice.

Comfort level: With the Glock in the small of my back I have to reposition it to my side if I want to sit down. Walking around the gun stays where I holstered it and even with the weight it doesn’t pull my pants down or feel uncomfortable. However if I knew I was going to be standing and sitting off and on this is not the size I would want to carry since I would have to keep moving it back and forth.

Ease of Draw:  The size of the gun makes the gun a quick draw and have rounds on target with relative ease. Cross draw and carrying in the small of my back still very easy.

Ease of reholstering: The package does say you have to pull the holster out and put the gun back on the rod which is the main con I have found so far.

Safety: The Holster comes with a trigger guard which covers the trigger from the outside of your pants and the skin of your body covers the other side. this keeps those of us without a switch safety more protected. 

Overall thoughts: I have only had this holster for about a week now and I will say I like it. It is all made of plastic. The barrel rod screws onto the frame and has a metal insert molded into the rod so it shouldn’t strip if you change the rod to a different caliber.

So far I like the way it carries and feels. it doesn’t seem to weigh me down or make movements awkward.

Bergmann Bayard model 1908 pistol (3-30 Name that gun)

Bergmann Bayard model 1908 pistol (3-30 Name that gun)

Bergmann Bayard model 1908 pistol


Caliber: 9×23 Bergmann (9mm Largo)
Weight unloaded: 1020 g
Length: 254 mm
Barrel length:102 mm
Magazine capacity: 6 or 10 rounds
Production: 1901 – 1914, 1922 – 1935
Company: Anciens Etablissements Pieper
Operation: Semi-automatic (single action)
Operating Mechanism: Short recoil (locked breech)
Designer: Theodor Bergmann
Safety: Frame-mounted safety switch on left side of hammer

R-L 9mm Largo, 9mm luger
R-L 9mm Largo 9×23, 9mm luger 9×19


The largo bullets are hard to find and are  Less powerful than a 9mm luger.


“Theodor Bergmann was a German businessman, who eventually got himself involved in the development of the automatic arms early in the process. As early as in 1894 he brought up a semi-automatic pistol, designed for him by designer Louis Schmeisser. This pistol, along with a number of subsequent models, meet little success, but in around 1903 Bergmann brought to the market a completely new pistol, with recoil-operated action based on the machine gun, designed by the same Louis Schmeisser. The Bergmann Model 1903 pistol, also known as Bergmann “Mars”, was chambered for a potent (by the standards of the time) cartridge, known as 9×23 Bergmann. Spanish military tested this pistol and ordered several thousands in 1905. In Spanish service the new 9×23 Bergmann cartridge became known as 9mm Largo, and the name stuck. Due to the very limited production capabilities of the Bergmann’s own company, he subcontracted production to the Belgian company Societe Anonyme Anciens Establissments Pieper (AEP), which sold its guns under trade mark “Bayard”. In 1908, Pieper produced an updated version of the pistol, known as Bergmann Bayard model 1908 pistol, and in 1910 came the definitive version of this gun, known as Bergmann Bayard model 1910. The Model 1910 pistol was adopted by Danish government, and several thousands of these pistols were built by Pieper for Danish army prior to the outbreak of the WW1. After the start of WW1, production of this pistol has stopped due to the occupation of Belgium, and it was never resumed later there. After the war, Danish government ordered several thousands of these guns to be built at state arsenals, and in 1921 all Danish pistols still in service were updated to the Model 1910/21 standard, and served in this modification until 1946.

Bergmann Bayard model 1910 pistol is a short recoil operated weapon. It uses short recoil system in which the separate bolt rides inside the rectangular barrel extension. The bolt protrudes from the barrel extension at the rear, and has two round knobs for manual retraction. Bolt locking is achieved by a vertically sliding block, which is located in the barrel extension. In the forward position of the moving parts, the locking block is forced upwards by the step in the frame, and engages the cut made on the underside of the bolt, securely locking it to the barrel extension. Upon recoil, the slope in the frame allows the block to fall down slightly and to leave the recess in the bolt, thus unlocking the bolt. The feed is from detachable box magazines, which hold cartridges in two vertical staggered rows. Magazines can be reloaded either when detached from the gun, or while in-place, using the charger clips through the ejection opening at the top (with the bolt locked back). Magazine housing is located in front of the trigger guard. Magazine release is located inside the trigger guard, at its front. Trigger is of single action type, with exposed hammer and a manual safety lever, which is located to the left of the hammer. To engage the safety, this lever must be turned up and forward.”

Source: World Guns Modern Firearms

The M1908 has a similar forward of the trigger and grip mag well design to the C96. 

Mauser C96


Vektor SP1


Type: Double Action
Caliber: 9x19mm Luger
Length: 8.2” (210 mm)
Weight unloaded: 2lbs. (995 g)
Barrel Length: 4.6” (118 mm)
Magazine: 15+1 rounds
Country of Origin:  South Africa


The pistol is manufactured by a small arms division of the DENEL corporation.
The SP Stands for Service Pistol. 
it uses a short-recoil operated, locked-breech action.
The frame is made from an aluminum alloy with the other parts made from steel.
The trigger is double-action with an exposed hammer and a frame-mounted ambidextrous safety that allows the shooter to carry “cocked and locked”.
(Cocked and locked: The pistol has a round in the chamber and the hammer cocked back and ready to fire with the safety on.)

The Vektor SP1 was designed as a improved model of the South African  Z-88 (a copy of the Italian Beretta 92F pictured below.)   The pistol is manufactured by a small arms division of the DENEL corporation.
Beretta 92F

Kel Tec PF9


I had the opportunity to go out to the gun show with my sister and Sawgunner this past weeken dto  find a conceal carry for my sister.
After a few hours she found for the size and price that she liked the Kel Tec PF9


Caliber: 9mm Luger (9X19 mm)
Weight unloaded: 12.7 oz
Length: 5.85”  (149 mm)
Height: 4.3” (109 mm)
Width: .88” (22 mm)
Barrel Length: 3.1 ” (80 mm)
Magazine Capacity: 7+1 rounds
Trigger Pull: 5 lbs.

Sawgunner and and her will have a review for this pistol after next weekend.

AAC .300 BLK Honey Badger PDW

AAC .300 BLK Honey Badger PDW

AAC Honey badger

Caliber: .300 AAC Blackout
Barrel length: 6 inches
Overall Length w/ Suppressor: 24-29 inches
Weight: 6.5 pounds (unloaded)
STOCK: Collapsible
ACTION: Semi-auto
Magazine: Standard AR style magazines

The Advanced Armament Corporation showed off their new Honey Badger at the AUSA expo back in October 2011.

The .300 BLK cartridge was developed as one step forward towards the goal of replacing the MP5-SD with a more accurate and more powerful firearm for our troops and law enforcement officers. As John Hollister said many times when we were out on the range, when officers go in for a high risk warrant they can either take the quiet yet underpowered MP5-SD or the noisy and gigantic AR-15. AAC wanted to make something that had the ease of use of an AR-15 but the portability of a MP5, that could go from subsonic rounds to supersonic rounds with the change of a magazine. The .300 BLK cartridge gave them the round, but the Honey Badger is the final design.

The stock is based on the H&K sliding stock design but adapted for the AR-15 platform and uses a custom designed upper receiver that has slots built in for the rails to slide along. The receiver and stock were both designed by AAC’s R&D gurus at the request of a military organization that shall not be named. The barrel is only about 6 inches in length and affixes to a .30 caliber silencer that is partially hidden under the handguards. Despite the short barrel the weapon exceeds the accuracy of an MP5-SD.

The last time I saw this gun (or at least its parts) it was fresh off the rapid prototyping machine. The finished product looks fantastic, and I have no doubts that we’ll see something similar start to replace the aging MP5-SD.



Advanced Armament Corporation (AAC), Designed the .300 AAC Blackout in 2010 and released in 2011  it was designed to give a .30-caliber cartridge for the M4 platform.

The .300 AAC BLK cartridge was specifically developed for suppressor use

The subsonic 220-grain load offers better terminal ballistics over the traditional 9mm loads.

The .300 AAC Blackout also gives the user the option of using the 125-grain supersonic match ammunition for longer engagements, the 9mm round does not offer this option.

The Honey Badger was developed at the request of SOCOM to replace the HK MP5 and MP7 platforms for CQB and other low-profile operations.

The buffer system was shortened and the lower receiver was modified to accept the custom adjustable stock similar in design to the H&K MP5-SD.

The goal was to develop a PDW with increased lethality while maintaining the approximate dimensions and suppressed signature of the HK MP5SD.

The suppressed Honey Badger is as quiet to the ear as a MP5-SD.

There is a second version of the Multi-Purpose Weapon with a longer handguard that covers the suppressor. The longer handguard allows more space or lights, lasers and other rail attachments.






Q:How much energy are they getting out of that with a 6″ barrel and a subsonic round? What is the weight of the bullet they are using?

A: 220gr round traveling just over of 1000 fps for .300 AAC Blackout compared to a 147gr round which is just under 990fps for MP5-SD.


Caliber: 9 mm x 19 (9mm Luger)
Overall Length: 21.65”.
Barrel length: 5.74”.
Weight: 6.54 lbs. (unloaded)

NEW! Hornady Zombie Max AMMO (Z-Max)

NEW! Hornady Zombie Max AMMO  (Z-Max)


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Calibers available:
9MM LUGER – 115gr ($15)
40 S&W – 165gr ($17)
45 AUTO – 185gr ($18)
223 REM – 55gr ($16)
7.62×39 – 123gr ($14)
308 WIN – 168gr ($24)
12 GA – 00 Buck ($10)

(Thefirearmblog posted the prices)


You can check out  the zombie ammo on Hornady’s website HERE.

Name This Gun. 9-14. Samopal Vz. 25

Name This Gun. 9-14. Samopal Vz. 25

SA.24 9mmNATO

Caliber: Sa.23 and Sa.25 9x19mm Luger/Para; Sa.24 and Sa.26 7.65x25mm
Weight: 7.2lbs (3.27 kg) or 7.7lbs 3.5 kg empty (with folding or fixed stock, respectively)
Length (stock closed/open): 17.5” / 27’”  (445 / 686 mm)
Barrel length: 11” (284 mm)
Rate of fire: 650 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 24 or 40 rounds (9mm) or 32 rounds (7.62mm)
Effective range: 100-200 meters

Unlike most modern weapons this submachine gun does not have a selector switch to change from semi-auto to full auto but was designed to use light pressure on the trigger for semi or single shot fire to full trigger pull for full auto fire.

The weapons were produced from 1948–1968 by Czech arms designer Vaclav Holek at the Uhersky Brod arms factory.

SA.24 7.62x25mm Tokarev

The differences between the 7.62×25 and the 9mm versions can been seen by looking at the magazine and hand grip. The 7.62×25 chambered weapons has a forward leaning slope to allow for the round to be chambered properly in the weapon. The 9mm has a straight vertical grip and magazine.

7.65 mm Browning (aka .32 ACP), 7.62mm Tokarev, 9mm Luger (aka 9mm NATO)
.380 ACP, 7.62×25, 9mmNATO

Welrod silenced pistol

Welrod silenced pistol


Action: Single Action manually operated bolt
Caliber: .32 ACP(Top) and 9×19 Luger (Bottom)
Weight unloaded: 2.4lbs – 3.3lbs
Overall Length: 12” (310mm) – 14” (360mm)
Magazine capacity: 6-8 rounds
Safety: A simple automated grip safety is provided at the rear of the magazine housing / grip base.

(Bolt open and magazine removed)

This pistol was designed as a bolt action to limit the noise made by the action.

The suppressor slows the supersonic 9mm round down to subsonic to reduce the noise, by doing this it dropped the pistols max effective range down to 75ft. 

The detachable single stack box magazine was wrapped in rubber and used as the pistols grip

The sound suppression was no more than 10-15 rounds, after which the shooter would have to remove and replace the baffles in the weapon. This was due to the rubber washers used in the suppressor would quickly deteriorate after 10- 15 shots making the sound suppression be less effective.

[Thanks to Kevin B for answering correctly]